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Knife And Cleaver Forging Guide
Its printed title: The Applied Metallurgy of Traditional Bladesmithing in Berlin: A Comprehensive Analysis of Forging, Edge Geometry, and Thermomechanical Processing
Knives and cleavers forged in Berlin, with the city's smithies named, among them the Rixdorfer Schmiede, and a table of German limits for forge gases, quartz dust and noise. The edge geometry is the useful part: for a chef's knife it gives a spine of 2.0 to 2.5 mm, 1.0 to 1.1 mm at 10 mm behind the edge and 15 to 17° a side, and it quenches with the edge no thinner than 1 mm. The units are metric, but the opening repeats its sibling reports.
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- 6 - Knife And Cleaver Forging Guide.pdf
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- 12 confirmed
- 4 amended
- 1 dropped
- 5 marked for safety
- I9 dropped Safety An undamped anvil takes the smith's hearing within a few years; silicone bed, chain, earmuffs regardless
- K1 confirmed Safety The oil quench flares at the surface every time; the can is steel, tall, 5 litres or more, lidded, no water near; leave the blade in, lid on, never water on burning oil
- K4 confirmed Safety Dust from natural stones and linings is respirable silica; wet work only
- K5 amended Safety Carbon monoxide at the forge and zinc fume from galvanised steel apply here as before; zinc vaporises above 400 °C
- K6 confirmed Safety Never quench a file, spring or blade in water
- K10 confirmed Stone edges ground for thirty thousand years; the motion is the same
- K14 confirmed The change at 730 to 760 °C for plain carbon steel; the shadow of decalescence; the magnet lets go at about the same heat
- K15 confirmed Quench must pass 600 to 550 °C in about a second (the nose); martensite skates a file; only about 0.6 % carbon in solution before lath gives way to plate; hotter is not better
- K16 confirmed Temper 200 °C two hours twice; light straw 200 °C at 60 HRC; bronze 240 a warning; 230 to 315 the brittle trough (TME); 345 and up grey-blue spring temper for axes, hoes and forks
- K17 confirmed 1084 is 0.80 to 0.84 % carbon, hardens in fast oil from a plain forge with no soak; leaf spring 5160 about 0.6 % C with chromium, deeper hardening, slow oil, cracks in fast; file …
- K21 confirmed Bevel forging curves the blade backward; edge left 1 mm ("a coin") before the quench or it ripples (bacon edge); pre-curve the tip upward in the last heat
- K23 confirmed Harden 1084 at 800 to 815 °C, 5160 at 830; point first; fast quench oil for 1084, canola at 50 °C for 5160; move up and down, never sideways; vapour jacket
- K24 amended Scale and decarburisation: a thin edge can lose its carbon a millimetre deep; muffle pipe with charcoal inside; or grind the skin off after the quench
- K25 amended CATRA at Sheffield: a cheap stainless at a thin angle outcut two famous alloys ground thicker; "geometry washes out the chemistry"; a toothy edge bites fibrous material better
- K26 confirmed Chef's knife: spine 2 to 2.5 mm, 1.0 to 1.1 mm at 10 mm, 0.1 to 0.2 mm behind the edge, 15 to 17° a side, slight convex with a shoulder 15 mm up; cleaver: 3.0 to 4.7 mm spine, 0.5 …
- K27 confirmed Brandenburg sandstone Findlinge as 600 to 1,000 grit whetstones; water balance; chef's knife on to 3,000 grit, cleaver left toothy
- K41 amended Rixdorfer Schmiede on the Richardplatz working since the 1600s and teaching; a smithy in a Pankow courtyard; a self-run metal shop in Treptow; a hook by evening, a knife by the …
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Iron and steel Tools and their making The kitchen and its dishes Berlin and Brandenburg
Its works cited 82
As the document lists them, unchecked. Sorted here by their addresses only, which says where a claim comes from, not whether it holds.
- 20 journals, universities and public bodies
- 4 document-sharing sites
- 9 forums, video and social sites
- 10 blogs
- 1 shop or maker
- 37 other web pages
- 1 without an address
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